. . . will be down at Scenic this coming Saturday.
Monday, May 8th, DDES will be doing a site survey of the wetlands on the property. Do not plan on visiting for a soak that day.
Rick
Monday, May 8th, DDES will be doing a site survey of the wetlands on the property. Do not plan on visiting for a soak that day.
Rick
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Re: Mike . . .
Thu, April 27, 2006 - 6:24 AMHi Rick! What is DDES and what is the purpose of the survey? -
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Re: Mike . . .
Thu, April 27, 2006 - 4:22 PMDDES=Department of Development and Environmental Services of King County. They deal mainly with building and use permits
They will be doing a Critical Areas and Wetlands survey . . . you may have seen the red tape hanging from trees near the streams that cross the trails. These are the people we have to deal with in any stream restoration plan.
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Re: Mike . . .
Mon, May 1, 2006 - 5:54 PMRick,
We know Mike has go thru this, but:
It's kinda hard to survey possible wetlands when the area is covered with snow, same goes for critical areas, re: streams or steep slopes. Just a (funny} observation.
Has Mike proposed any date for the next work party?
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Re: Mike . . .
Mon, May 1, 2006 - 11:41 PMHey Bear . . . you know Mike. I've told him till I'm blue in the face, posted 109 pictures of snow covering everything. He still insists on trying. Didn't help that it snowed up there last night.
I'll be seeing him in the next day or so and find out if he will have to reschedule. I have no desire to hike wet and cold slopes only to find out the inspectors can't do anything because of snow.
The next workparty will be after this site inspection . . . I imagine Mike is pressured on the requirement to remove all that wood up there (which, BTW, is covered by three feet of tree-shaded snow) :-)
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DDES Site Inspection Synopsis and tenative Work Party
Wed, May 10, 2006 - 1:11 AMA site meeting took place at Scenic Hot Springs on May 8th and without going into details, went very well despite there still being three feet of snow in places. Critical slopes and wetland areas were evaluated by a geotech engineer and wetlands specialist, respectively, from DDES. A potential parking area, trail improvements and natural pools seem a go-ahead for DDES.
Much more to be done . . . dealing with the Forest Service and BPA (their roads) and WA DOT (access from Highway 2) . . . and there is still the matter of the existing Code Enforcement Action on how to deal with the existing Monster tub and remaining construction material up there.
Tenatively, we're planning a work party for May the 27th (a Saturday). I will be sending out further information later . . . we will probably be doing something with that construction material. For those not on the mailing list for clean up parties, drop me a line if you wish to be involved.
Rick
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Re: Mike . . .
Wed, May 10, 2006 - 3:34 PMkimba, unfortunately Scene Hotsprings is just a few miles within King County.
It is strange the way the border goes you first have to cross over to Shohomish County and then the road (Hwy 2) goes back into King County only for a short time as in a few miles the road goes into Chalen county.
It seems like the border line just goes up a bit just in order to catch Scenic hotsprings in its grip but I am pretty sure this wasn't intentional.
So, although it is easy to think otherwise Scenic Hotsprings isn't in Shohomish County. Scenic hotsprings is all but a few miles from Chelan and Kittitas counties too, but again, unfortunately it is right inside the clutches of King County. The fact that Scenic Hotsprings is within King County changes EVERYTHING making it so, so much harder.
So, your answer is DDES stand for a beast that people wake up in the night screaming its name in agony. It is one of the greatest horrors you can run into in the Northwest. God can't even help those who cross it.
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Wed, May 10, 2006 - 9:31 PMLOL . . . a good way to describe dealing with them.
Actually, DDES has been one of the easier agencies to deal with. What we went through with King County Public Health and the State Health Board is best described as an unstoppable force (that would be Mike) meeting an irresistable object (that would be Health). It just takes time and persistence (and a whole lot of paperwork and permit fees).
The borders of King County are a reflection of geography . . . the crest of the Cascades define them on the east and an straight east-west line on the north reflected the original platting of Seattle to differentiate it from Everett. The railway over Stevens Pass and the Cascade Highway (Highway 2) came later and simply followed the line of least resistence up the Skykomish valley.
If . . . if . . . . Great Northern had only vested the land back to the government instead of exchanging the spring acreage for tearing down the Scenic Hot Springs Hotel in 1929, then we might find ourselves dealing with a hot spring on National Forest land (much like Olympic and Baker Hot Springs( and out of the grips of King County. If only the springs were another 383 feet higher in on the mountainslope . . .
Rick
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